Rick Sarson
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In search of fidelity
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AES/EBU
Sept 13, 2007 12:50:46 GMT 1
Post by Rick Sarson on Sept 13, 2007 12:50:46 GMT 1
Has anyone out there got much experience of AES/EBU? I will be doing a job soon, probably with an M7CL, which will be using a d&b Q system (thus D12 amps) and it seems a bit daft to use a digital desk, convert back to analogue for the multi and then plug into digital amps. I know that there are AES cards available for the M7CL, and I know that you can't daisy chain the AES inputs to the amps but I know nothing about the routing and splitting options for the cards. Any information about how to do this and possible pitfalls will be gratefully received. Also any thoughts about special AES/EBU cable, some people have told they have used standard xlr with no problems, others shake their heads and tut like a mechanic looking in your bonnet.
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Rick Sarson
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Post by Rick Sarson on Sept 13, 2007 12:40:28 GMT 1
Anybody got any clues or handy hints about this stuff? I have to use a system in the Roundhouse next week and it will be a first for me. Any thoughts gratefully received.
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Rick Sarson
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Post by Rick Sarson on Aug 14, 2007 11:14:21 GMT 1
Also if you know anyone in a linguistics department at a university they muck about with this sort of thing.
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Rick Sarson
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Post by Rick Sarson on Aug 14, 2007 11:12:54 GMT 1
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Rick Sarson
Senior Engineer
In search of fidelity
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Post by Rick Sarson on Nov 13, 2007 11:21:59 GMT 1
What about a Yamaha M7CL? EQ and reverbs for days and two sets of dynamics on every channel. Also delays all over the place on the outputs. Much less front of house and truck space needed too. Just a thought.
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Rick Sarson
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In search of fidelity
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Post by Rick Sarson on Jun 24, 2007 11:44:08 GMT 1
I thought you might be interested in this, I certainly found it well done and fascinating. www.dbaudio.com/en/education/seminars/training_day_gb/It backed up with science lots of lessons experience had taught me, showed me new things and gave me a much better understanding of stuff like the inverse square law and path length differential (eek) but was very well presented and easy to understand. It would have to be for me! Obviously they relate it all to d&b loudspeakers, but hey, what else would they do? It costs nothing, my favourite price, all you have to do is get there.
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Rick Sarson
Senior Engineer
In search of fidelity
Posts: 106
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Post by Rick Sarson on Jul 3, 2007 11:00:24 GMT 1
If you are using DPA's, see if they will go for 4088's (or 4066's). You will get excellent level and they are fairly discrete, although obviously not as much as a headworn 4060.
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Rick Sarson
Senior Engineer
In search of fidelity
Posts: 106
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Gaffer
Jun 21, 2007 11:58:31 GMT 1
Post by Rick Sarson on Jun 21, 2007 11:58:31 GMT 1
Gaffer. It is like "The Force". Dark on one side, light on the other and it holds the universe together! ;D
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Rick Sarson
Senior Engineer
In search of fidelity
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Post by Rick Sarson on Jun 21, 2007 12:52:56 GMT 1
Razorback. Could you please give me a bit more of a clue about RSP? I just found stuff about rail safety and the like. Ta!
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Rick Sarson
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In search of fidelity
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Post by Rick Sarson on Jun 21, 2007 12:49:06 GMT 1
I should hope Abelton is better considering the price differential! £300 - £15. Cheap! Audacity is a competent free audio editor ( audacity.sourceforge.net/ ) but I am not suggesting it will offer Protools a challenge. Combiwave is inexpensive, it does not cost a lot, did I mention that it was cheap?
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Rick Sarson
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In search of fidelity
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Post by Rick Sarson on Jun 19, 2007 13:19:28 GMT 1
I thought you might be interested in this www.combiwave.com/It is a cheap and cheerful hot start player using your laptop. A hell of a lot cheaper than 360 Systems! It seems to be stable and works well, I have used it on several shows now and it has not let me down yet. Best of all you can try a track limited version for free.
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Rick Sarson
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In search of fidelity
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Post by Rick Sarson on Jun 13, 2007 18:12:00 GMT 1
I meant to mention this before. Check this out www.soundsailing.co.uk/ Its fer charridy mate! I am doing Grimsby to Arbroath (Ah the romance of the Sea!) Surely this is an all round good thing?
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Rick Sarson
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In search of fidelity
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Post by Rick Sarson on Nov 13, 2007 11:36:53 GMT 1
Yup. Well up for that. Knowledge is power and all that.
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Rick Sarson
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In search of fidelity
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Smaart
Apr 8, 2008 11:48:02 GMT 1
Post by Rick Sarson on Apr 8, 2008 11:48:02 GMT 1
Oh. I forgot to say. I use an Earthworks M30 and either a Digigram VX pocket V2 or an Edirol FA66 firewire.
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Rick Sarson
Senior Engineer
In search of fidelity
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Smaart
Apr 8, 2008 11:45:40 GMT 1
Post by Rick Sarson on Apr 8, 2008 11:45:40 GMT 1
Just a thought, I expect most of you will have thunk it already, but if you are using a digital desk then remember to allow for the latency of the desk when doing Smaart measurements. I tend to route the mic through the desk rather than straight into my sound card to make sure that the pink and the mic signal cohere properly. If you are a Smaart 6 user have a look on the forum because a new version has just been posted.
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