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Post by soundmanjim on Aug 26, 2008 15:16:11 GMT 1
hi all mate of mine has just bought this kit www.thomann.de/gb/stairvillelichtset_rockn_roll.htm...and we have just noticed that its 3 phase. well it would be running all those 64's i suppose! anyway, what i want to know, (as were using this kit at the weekend), is, can we, after using this at the weekend, change the dimmer for a single pahse version? he wants to change to led cans as soon as he has a few gigs under his belt, can he do this on this system? the cans all run 500w parabs BTW the genny we are getting for the gig SHOULD have a 5 pin 32A three phase connection, but the cable on the dimmer is a bit short, will we have any problems if we get hold of a 5 pin extension cable? only need to get the dimmer inside the tent not under the genny in the rain (well you have to assume its going to rain!) thoughts, etc!
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Post by jimthedrum on Aug 26, 2008 21:54:33 GMT 1
The LED par cans would not use the dimmer pack, but could be daisy chained after the pack and be used with the desk. An extension lead would work fine as ling as it can cope with the amps required.
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Post by gingerbiscuit69 on Aug 27, 2008 11:50:23 GMT 1
hire a suitable extension cable and thats your gig sorted.
12x 500w = 6000w = 26.09amps when all on. you would need extra capacity for switchon currents which cause spikes.
in theory a decent 32amp single phase dimming pack would do it nicely, or for functionality, two dimmer packs capable of running off a 16/13amp each would be ideal as most venues wont have a 32amp ceeform.
regards to changing to LED cans - each has its own power supply, so only needs the XLR dmx daisychained from the desk. You will find however, unless you buy the expensive LED parcans, they will not be bright enough to light your stage up. A combination of using halogens and LED's would suffice, but i wouldnt want to be lighting an entire stage with just LED's.
regards, Pat.A
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Post by soundmanjim on Aug 27, 2008 12:17:39 GMT 1
thanks guys!
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Post by gingerbiscuit69 on Aug 28, 2008 14:01:22 GMT 1
thinking about it, a single phase 32amp plug going to a three phase socket, with the possitive to all three Lives then neutral and ground should be fine with your 26amp load, allowing you to run single phase with that dimming pack.
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Post by soundmanjim on Sept 2, 2008 14:03:27 GMT 1
nice one pat. the gig went brilliant, my lampy scott found two 25 metre armoured 3 phase cables - his dad had them in his van! uploading pics shortly
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