shepz
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Post by shepz on Feb 17, 2007 19:01:16 GMT 1
Been looking at their "copys" and they look quite promising! I've heard some of thomanns own t.amp brand amplifiers are quite good too apparantly sharing the same circuitry of crown and qsc amps.
Anyone had any experience with any of their range?
I'm gonna make an order on their THE T.BONE MB78 BETA (basically a 87 beta copy)... for around £30 - price dropped from £130.
Also gonna check out a couple of their SM57 copies, they look exactly like the real thing so could be good for those budget "hardcore" gigs.
I'll write up a little review on them but I haven't actually had the chance to ever use a real 87 beta so I guess I couldn't say much on it... it either sounds good or doesnt! lol
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Post by soundmanjim on Feb 17, 2007 19:44:08 GMT 1
the t-bone bd300 kick mike is suprisingly good - the build quality is suspect but i used one for ages and i got a really good kick sound out of it - so i was quite pleased. Don't expect miracles tho - their inherent problem is FEEDBACK. Most mikes sound ok (you've got all that eq on the desk anyway to claean them up) BUT they suffer with fedback and handling noise.
You get what you pay for - i bought several sm58's off of thomanns (£61 each!) and the good thing is about these mikes is uyou can use them for just about everything. i now have 9 of the flippin' things!
the little guitar mikes also work well suprisingly.
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Post by razorback on Feb 19, 2007 15:38:41 GMT 1
I have a set of basic T bone mics, not even sure what they are a copy of. SM58's I think. They aren't bad, they sound good on guitar amps and I've even used them to basically mic a drum set. Also used them when I was on the radio, they worked well for vocals. Very, very cheap as well. £55 for 3 on ebay I think.
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Post by gingerbiscuit69 on Feb 24, 2007 14:56:41 GMT 1
dunno abo0ut microphones, but you cant go wrong with their amplifier. they are what u pay for, dont expect a hundred years perfect history, but sound to the pound is great. protection where fitted is effective and not too overkill. Only drawback (as with all budget amps) is a smaller than what would be nice power supply.
I use 3x T-amp proline 3000's, they are beasts, some kind of crown ripoff. sound great for sub/bass duty, loads and loads of power!! something like 1500w rms/4ohm per side! cheap at thomann £390.
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shepz
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Post by shepz on Mar 28, 2007 13:27:50 GMT 1
I've yet to have a chance to use these mics out on a live gig - but i've tested them out and i was very impressed by the clarity that the 87 copy had! The 57 copies i couldnt find a fault with, they really did look the part and to be honest I didn't notice anything in the sound which would have them fall when put next to a real 57. The advantage to me is that a client isn't going to really know the difference either unless they look really closely and go "hey whats this t-bone lark all about?".
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Post by soundmanjim on Mar 29, 2007 0:05:02 GMT 1
just call yourself t-bone PA services!!
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shepz
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Post by shepz on Mar 29, 2007 0:19:04 GMT 1
LOL
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Post by ben on Mar 29, 2007 21:49:04 GMT 1
Never heard of these mics before, looked them up just now. I can't belive how chap they are, really that good?.
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Post by soundmanjim on Mar 31, 2007 1:40:19 GMT 1
i say again, the BD300 kick mike i used a while back never let me down and was easy to get the 'Tallica THUNK in the mix. unbelieveable considering the thing only cost me £30!!! I even took it apart and had a look inside and its built similarly to a shure. Obviously with a cheaper element BUT i did get a good sound out of it. also the bd200's were great on the guitar cabs. so cheap.
actually embarrasing because when Bad Manners played here i hid them and used others!! just goes to show doesnt it - if it hasnt got shure written on it some people turn up their nose but i reckon those t bone '75's would pass scrutiny to mike snobs at first glance. LOL
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shepz
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Post by shepz on Mar 31, 2007 11:16:48 GMT 1
On a darkened stage filled with smoke are you really gonna be able to see "shure" down by those pesky 4 by 12's?
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Simon Ryder
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Post by Simon Ryder on Apr 3, 2007 19:25:30 GMT 1
I can't comment on the T bone mics because I have not heard them.
The Shure mics are a standard for very good reason. Build qulity is excelent and the sound is pretty good too. Yes there are better mics out there but they tend to cost more.
One of the biggest revelations I have had is using decent mics as sources. You barely need totouch the EQ to get a good sound.
Things the copies tend to fail on are things like handling noise, feedback rejection and other points like that.
My advice is this. Buy some decent headphones. Get a sample of the orginal and the copy. Then AB them through the console, monitoring the differences on your headphones.
And remeber this: You get what you pay for.
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Post by allongsounddesigns on Apr 25, 2007 2:01:55 GMT 1
I bought a few of the SM57 copies... they're great!!! how wrong could you really go with a 57? eh?
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