Feedback destroyer units??

[Phil]

Has anyone had any expeience with the automatic feedback destroyers.
Just wondering if when they are on auto would you trust them to take control of your monitors?
I cannot see me getting one unless I get any bad feedback problems.

I currently use a alesis 2x 32 band graphic and that seems to work a treat.

Thanks

Phil

[Simon Ryder]

Don't bother with them, they are more trouble than they are worth. The only one that works properly is the Sabine and that is expensive.

They are completely un-necessary if you have your monitors properly tuned.

[soundmanjim]

agreed. i owned a pair of the behringer feedback destroyers and they over complicated things. they did actually sort out the feedback and you could store the settings into the memory but they continually kept knackering up the foldback sound by effectively muting the guitar solo's. ROFL. Bloody hopeless.
For my sins i do use two 31 band ultragraphs in the monitor chain BUT they d introduce a distinctive level of hiss in the monitor wedges.

Shame because apart from that they are fine.
Wouldn't take them out on the road though.

Another thing that helps Phil is good solid wedges - mine are A.S.S. 600w 15" units and they have a very nice flat response, hardly have to play with eq at all nowadays.

[John Bell]

I have used a Behringer Feedback Destroyer. If you set it to auto, it will notch-out the main problem frequencies very quickly. You then have to lock those filters or they could be released and re-used, if all of the filters become active. If you leave a few filters on auto, they will kill any feedback from a roaming mike. However, if all channels are left on auto, it will "kill" any guitar sustain it hears and generally mess up your monitor sound.

The other big problem is, if you are doing small gigs in a venue with a noise limiting device on the power feeds. If the power is cut, when using the auto settings, all of the filters reset and when the power restores, there is a great wall of feedback, until it kills it all.

[sean]

I also use a behringer unit on the monitors and i have to say at my level (beginner) i find it really useful I just hook it up, set it to auto 2 (i think) and increase the monitor sends to they howl, the unit finds the frequencies and notches them out. I would sujest and pro level it would probably colour the sound excessivly but at what I am doing at the moment it works real well.

[mic8man]

I know I have knocked Behringer before and simon is to right dont bother with a graphic because you can not home in freqquancy to cut it, you can use you paramatic eq then sweep for the freq but thats more for another time. there is the behringer dsp110 shark which is gooood product and only cost 900 Rand but can only be used for 1 mic.

[Simon Ryder]

Actually I use graphics on my monitors.

My preference is for the Audient ASP231 followed by the BSS FCS960 which both have a notch mode which means you can go after the offending frequency with much more accuracy than you can on a DN360.

Failing either of those two being available I would rather have 6 bands of parametric. I will however take any graphic offered as being better than no graphic. After touring with bands and finding venues without graphics on FOH or monitors I took to carrying my own with me.

If anyone is interested I have some Yamaha Q2031s for sale. sonoengineer.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=sale&action=display&thread=1168621935
I am willing to negotiate on the price. PM me if you are interested.

[ben]

Use an EQ, I hate the idea of these units, pulling sounds at all different levels.