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Post by andy on Jan 25, 2006 13:19:58 GMT 1
Do you need to be qualified to carry out and pass PAT tests? Or can you do it as long as you have the insurance to cover you? If it is a qualification does anybody know where and how to get it? Its seems to be one of those questions iv asked loads of people but nobody knows because the laws on it keep changing.  |
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Post by soundmanjim on Jan 25, 2006 15:17:49 GMT 1
hi andy just looking!
erm..as far as i was aware you have to let an electrician or similar tech look at it who has the approved accredition. weve got to get all our stuff pat-tested for insurance and fire brigade reasons!
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Post by andy on Jan 25, 2006 15:42:10 GMT 1
hey jim, thats what i thought but i think there is a city and guild qualification you can do which accredits you to sign the wee sticker. Our P.A company and our venues are about to have our anual PAT test but it costs a fortune was thinking about getting qualified to do it for some extra cash  PLI will be seriously expensive though as any electrical fault within the year can be shifted on to you  |
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Post by jay on Jan 25, 2006 16:05:58 GMT 1
that city and guilds course is a 3 year course part time and 2 year full time, your better of getting someone who is experienced because if your doing your own gear than we all know your gonna fly through it not checking 100% and than if something does go wrong they wil find out who pat tested it and your balls will be on the chopping board
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Post by andy on Jan 25, 2006 16:12:30 GMT 1
i didnt think the course was that long. Cant tour and do that at the same time.
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Post by allongsounddesigns on Jan 26, 2006 20:18:04 GMT 1
We carry out the bulk of the pat testing, but there's always a qualified sparkey on site, incase we have any questions or anything fails... I think you don't have to be qualified as long as there is someone who is on site... I sign pass stickers all the time...
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Post by chris courtacousticsnet on Jan 27, 2006 10:54:44 GMT 1
You need to do City and Guilds 2377-001 and City and Guilds 2377-002 its about one and a half days. Look at Your local tech college. Its not that expensive either. Chris
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Post by soundmanjim on Jan 28, 2006 3:13:54 GMT 1
blimey!
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Post by Guernz on Feb 1, 2006 17:35:19 GMT 1
Hi
As far as I can remember - to legally test anything electrical you have to "be able to show that you are a competent person." Also to be responsible for the person/s doing the testing(ie my boss) there is the next stage up from this training which is also legally required, however this is fairly new legislation.
Myself and four colleagues spent an 8hr day being Pat trained.
During the day all the latest legal stuff from Europe was explained and the latest all singing-all dancing kit was shown to the class, so it is still relevant to people who already have an older qualification. Make sure you get yourself the relevant course book, which is available on the C&G interweb site. After a short break, we all took the multi-guess test.
We all passed, even me, so I can recommend it.
cheers,
Guernze
(*which knocks spots off the beaten-up yellow beeping box you will actually use back at work!)
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Post by andy on Feb 2, 2006 1:14:37 GMT 1
Cool man how much does the day course cost?
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Post by Simon Ryder on Feb 6, 2006 17:52:12 GMT 1
Hi Al,
You are breaking the law by PAT testing if you are not qualified. The tests are worthless and you are leaving yourself open to being sued in Criminal courts if a piece of equipment that you have tested fails catasrophically and you are unqualified. To protect yourself, you need to go and get that piece of paper. It will only take a day and then its yours.
Regards,
Simon
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Post by Guernz on Feb 8, 2006 19:33:21 GMT 1
I seem to remember about £140, but it was a while ago and my old work paid for me, the vital text book(let) is extra. Simon is absolutly correct, get yourself safe. Good luck and best regards
G
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Post by allongsounddesigns on Mar 27, 2006 12:32:58 GMT 1
Ok i will inform my bosses of that, we all hate doing it anyways... hahaha
I've had training from our sparkey, and he does check over everything we do.
Thing is every test our machine does can be forced pass except the earth-bond test, so being as i'm not qualified i don't fully understand how to interperate the results.
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Post by adamlondonuk on May 18, 2006 19:11:52 GMT 1
Hi, at my work they have asked me to start pat testing gear as part of the double check before it goes to a client, by plugging into the yellow box thingy, is this illegal as i have no qualifications to do this, we do have a sparky on site though......
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Post by allongsounddesigns on May 26, 2006 13:07:43 GMT 1
Same situation as me mate, all of us at work are trained up on the pat test but are not qualified, so we cannot actually use it.
You do need a c&g qualification to be able to legally test the equipment
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PLI will be seriously expensive though as any electrical fault within the year can be shifted on to you 
