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Post by muppet on Mar 27, 2007 1:30:28 GMT 1
Yes, this is a common practice. The aim is to set faders and use the gain to meter a signal at 0dbu. This among other things ensures that inputs are entering the desk at the same or at least very similar levels. this can then be used as a good reference of levels between the different inputs, for example you can easily set the main vocal 5dbu greater than the backing vocals or the trumpet 5dbu lower than the sax. This is one reason why the numbers on your channels are labelled in the manor they are ie x dbu greater or less than the 0dbu reference. The desk in the picture (Yamaha PM5D) actually has the ability to snapshot the faders back to this position, which can be very handy after complex mixes. Of course many people don’t even touch these faders when mixing, they would simply set their levels, assign to a VCA and mix from there.
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Post by ben on Mar 27, 2007 2:15:27 GMT 1
Yea I didn't use the faders, bare in mind I was using the above desk for 8 monitor mixes, I just found it easier.
The main out was going to two wedges so I could hear everyone's mix perfectly when I selected the aux/pfl/main mix.
I don't really know why I do it like that, I don't think it would work quite so well in smaller venues though. These was 2000+ venues.
Please bare in mind it was the first time I had ever used digital so I'm not an expert lol.
At the London Astoria I used faders and post fade as they had an analogue desk. (That wasn't great I might add)
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Post by shepz on Mar 28, 2007 13:37:45 GMT 1
Back in summer when I was a monitor engineer for a relatively large festival here in Kent (Lounge on the farm... approx 4000 people?). I was dumped on an old "hall audio" analogue monitor desk. Same applied there... Just set the faders on the channels I was using to 0db... the rest got sorted in the individual VCA's and then I got the dirty looks from various bands who never had the chance to sound check before it all kicked off. I was running 4 stereo mixes - Stage left, Stage center, Stage right and drum fill. FoH was provided by a 16kw production systems line array (the company has since gone bust!).
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Post by muppet on Apr 10, 2007 19:54:27 GMT 1
i cant believe they gave you dirty looks, you actually did them a favour by mixing them like that!i guess some people have no appreciation. how were you running your VCAs? ...let me try and guess, Kit, Guitars, Keys, Band and Vocals? i am surprised you actually bothered running full stereo mixes in a fezzy environment! thats just pure dedication! Lol
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Post by shepz on Apr 10, 2007 21:45:10 GMT 1
I like the EMS 400 rack case in the background... I've got a EMS 500 10U rack as my main amp rack... all on wheel board, I love it!
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Post by soundiesam on May 11, 2007 15:43:35 GMT 1
here you go guys its me at the royal albert hall on monday mixing sound for a hip hop crew called the 29th chapter, sam
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Post by soundiesam on May 11, 2007 15:45:11 GMT 1
how do i make it smaller!!! sam
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Post by gingerbiscuit69 on May 12, 2007 12:23:42 GMT 1
now thats bling! lighting n monitors everywhere! i love it.
never heard of 'da crew' but im sure they were equally as rubbish as any other lol!
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Post by soundmanjim on May 14, 2007 12:08:22 GMT 1
sam to make the images smaller, when you go to upload a picture (in photobucket) just click on the 'OPTIONS' bit by the upload button, it will give you a selection of sizes to use - dont forget to re set it back to your original size afterwards though as every consecutive picture will default to that size. Very handy actually - it means you can turn full size images into avatars etc.
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Post by muppet on May 16, 2007 23:45:41 GMT 1
Soundcraft VI6 in action for Harman roadshow
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Post by soundmanjim on May 20, 2007 15:25:16 GMT 1
i like his hat LOL
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Post by gingerbiscuit69 on Jun 3, 2007 22:53:27 GMT 1
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Post by razorback on Jun 3, 2007 23:54:27 GMT 1
Cool, I've always wanted to hear them live!
Oh yeah added you on Facebook mate, 1st person round here who I've seen who has it...
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Post by soundmanjim on Jun 5, 2007 23:57:53 GMT 1
Here we were, looking after a Job for mr Hasell (thanks Ian) in Warrior square, ilford (inbetween torrential downpours)!! and below, the carpenters communications own powered beast (!) soundcraft. Note the drapes ready to throw over when it rains. then onto the gig In walthamstow town center (much better attended, obviously LOL) just four radio mikes and a backing track, two 42" plasmas and two EV sx100 (i kid u not) as FOH. In order to get more bass, i cheated and cranked up the bass in the foldback during the gig - cunning huh? LOL it was a great gig and the weather was kind. I'm now finding myself liking dance music now. LOL!! (they are much easier to work with than some bands i could mention - typical sound check - "check one two - yeah safe man" Brilliant.
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Post by John Bell on Jun 6, 2007 8:29:43 GMT 1
Hi Jim, No protection from the elements for the plasmas? I aways thought that those things had a lot of airflow venting at the back. I like the compact, lightweight staging. Must be easily and quickly set-up and broken-down and not take up too much room in the transport. It seems strange for a dance band to have such a minimal FOH. I assume that there were strict noise limits.
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